I sent this
email to the nice MSN person who inspected this club last March:
It's me... Becca.
Remember when you looked at my spanking community back in March?
Well, everything is okay but another spanking community got closed
yesterday and recieved this email concerning the reason for the
closure:
"We have
found your "Spanking with Friends" community to be in
violation of
the MSN Code of Conduct for advocating violence. Because this
violation is
serious, we must preserve the contents for possible future
investigation, and you will not be given the opportunity to reopen
the community."
That community was
Adult and Public. My community is Adult and Private. Is
MSN going to take this stance with ALL the spanking
communities? Honestly, we're not pain freaks... we just like
spanking because it's sorta kinky and fun. Does MSN plan
to close all the adult spanking communities? There are
literally hundreds of them on MSN and a zillion on MSN UK.
I know spanking isn't your thing but you've seen my site and perhaps
you might be in the best position to explain that this isn't about
violence and pain, it's just a bedroom thing we do for fun.
I know you're busy but could you please let me know what you can
find out?
Just a few
minutes ago, she responded:
Hello
Becca!
Currently,
MSN is releasing new rules and guidelines in regards to closing
communities. Although they are not directly written on the CoC,
in which we
everyday insist them to place it on so that users will be notified
and avoid
such events, we haven't got any response back. Personally, I
don't have all
the power to decide or choose any action i would like to do but
unfortunately, they are in search of communities which advocates
violence no matter if it is crime, a form of sexual excitement or
any other reasons. But they don't literary search for these except
for those Category Managers who arrange communities. Bad thing
about these CatMans is that once they
saw an illegal community, they have the power to disable it and I
can't stop
that.
Spanking
is not really a violation except if there is a presence of
violence <snip>
That's
all I can give you as of now. In case you still have
questions,
please feel free to write me back.
As you can
imagine, I had questions. I wrote her back for further
clarification.
MJ,
Thank you so much
for the reply. I told some of the other spanking club managers about
MSN's recent closure of Spanking With Friends and some of them opted
to delete their community. I think that was a bit premature
since we're not sure what the final outcome of all this will be.
I'm trying to keep my members informed since we have formed some
great friendships and don't want to lose eachother if the club is
closed unexpectedly. I do have some more questions:
1. I've
unlisted my community and it's always been private. Do
you think
this will keep the catagory manager from finding it? If he
does find it, will
the fact that it's private and unlisted be a factor in his decision
to let it
stay?
its
their job to check every community under webcomm ... whether it is
unlisted, public, listed, private,etc.
2. You said
"spanking is not really a violation except if there is a
presence of violence". This concerns me because
while I know that what my fiance and I do is NOT violence, it might
look that way to someone who's not into spanking.
that
is what also bothers me ... every time we have updates here, I
always ask them to draw a line regards the decision-making of every
person who checks on communities. I asked someone in catman
about the "violence" in spanking and answered me that it
should not look as if you are already hurting people and it is no
longer a sexual satisfaction or pleasure ... he also mentioned to me
the use of "gadgets"... I think it is related to sadism
and other sorts.
3. I don't
want to exist here on MSN under the constant worry that I'll be
closed if I'm "discovered" by the cat manager. Can I
email the cat manager
and talk to him or her directly? If you know the cat manager
for my
category, can you ask them to email me?
they
don't have any direct contact us link or open communication with
anybody ... we can only ask them about their guidelines ...
For many of my
members, spanking was a life long interest that they were
horribly embarrassed about. They liked it but they felt
ashamed because
they thought something was wrong with them. I have a friendly
community that has a healthy attitude about a cute sexual fetish.
It would be such a shame if
my 3700 members were lost. What can I do to help
my club remain on MSN?
I
suggest to place a small warning on the homepage, or a note that
will indicate your intentions about the community ... I'm not
assuring you about this but hope that help.
Thanks for
discussing this with me. I really appreciate how helpful
you've
always been.
ur
welcome
As you can
see, there is lots of gray area here. I'll take her advice and
post that warning on the welcome page. I also want to search the
albums and delete any pictures that look too extreme. I don't
think there are many like that since we have a pretty mellow theme
here. Please report any pictures you see that are questionable
to management.
I'm feeling
pretty positive that we can keep this club. There's no doubt
that our "smidgen of humor" is going to help dilute any
image there might otherwise be that spanking is anything but fun.